130 - Joe Rigney Responds to Ligon Duncan and the “Moscow Mood”

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Summary

In this episode, Chase Davis and Joe Rigney discuss the interview with Ligon Duncan and the concept of the Moscow Mood. They explore the contrasting attitudes towards different opponents and the use of mockery and caricature. They also delve into the inner circle dynamics and the exclusionary nature of Big Eva. The conversation highlights the attraction to inner rings and the prevention of face-to-face interaction. They conclude by examining the motive behind the slapdown and the refusal to engage in meaningful conversation. The conversation explores the importance of inviting different voices and engaging with different perspectives, even if there is a lack of reciprocity. It highlights the dangers of dignifying every error and the need for clarity over nuance. The conversation also discusses the currency of credibility and the transition from a neutral to a negative world. It emphasizes the importance of courage and the recognition that leaders will make mistakes. Ultimately, the conversation encourages trust in the Lord and Jesus as the ultimate source of guidance.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

01:00 Discussing Ligon Duncan and the Moscow Mood

03:47 The Use of Mockery and Caricature

06:09 The Irony of Criticizing Moscow Mood

07:11 The Inner Circle and Exclusion

09:21 The Duplicity of Big Eva

11:28 The Attraction to Inner Rings

21:12 The Evangelical Industrial Complex

25:17 The Inner Ring and Human Nature

28:24 The Motive Behind the Slapdown

34:35 Refusing Face-to-Face Conversation

35:18 Inviting Different Voices

36:08 The Lack of Reciprocity

36:59 Engaging with Different Perspectives

37:26 The Importance of Engagement

38:21 The Dangers of Dignifying Every Error

39:20 Paul's Response to Mistaken Identity

40:19 The Number of Times in Acts

41:16 The Mistaken Identity of Paul and the Apostles

41:45 The Currency of Credibility

45:08 The Inconsistency of Criticism

46:23 The Ritual Denunciation Strategy

48:23 Transitioning from Neutral to Negative World

49:48 The Incentive Structure of Ritual Denunciation

50:47 The Importance of Courage in Negative World

52:36 The Importance of Clarity over Nuance

54:31 The Apprehension of Trusting Leaders

57:10 Different Approaches Based on Community Context

59:05 Learning from Mistakes and Developing Faithfulness

01:03:48 Trust in the Lord and Jesus