141 - Kruptos on How Managerial Christianity Liberalizes Churches

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Summary

The conversation explores the concept of managerial Christianity and how thinking and ideas adapt themselves to power. The guest, Kruptos, discusses his decision to remain anonymous on Twitter and the benefits of anonymity in speaking freely. He also delves into the idea that anonymity allows for a focus on the strength of ideas rather than credentials. The conversation then shifts to the topic of regime evangelicals and how some individuals in positions of power adapt their thinking to align with the prevailing power structures. Kruptos critiques the idea of managerial Christianity, which emphasizes efficiency and programs over the organic growth of a church community. He argues that the medium of the message is crucial and that the technological system of the church can be dehumanizing. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the progressive vision of church renewal and the pursuit of a utopian church. The conversation explores the dangers of relying on technical systems and the need for a different approach in the church. It discusses the inherent ambivalence of technology and the trade-offs that come with its use. The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing the spiritual and moral aspects of church life and not offloading them onto technical systems. It suggests that an alternative vision for the church involves building real relationships centered around the presence of God and embracing the inefficiencies that come with discipleship. The conversation concludes by highlighting the need to seek wisdom rather than just truth.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Anonymity on Twitter

10:49 Regime Evangelicals and Adapting Thinking to Power

39:48 The Progressive Vision of Church Renewal and Utopia

39:53 The Dangers of Seizing the Administrative State

41:42 The Ambivalence of Technology

44:24 Offloading Moral and Spiritual Responsibility

56:54 The Materialist Solution of the Technological Church

01:02:06 Counteracting the Technological World with the Presence of God

01:09:43 The Need for a Holistic Approach to Discipleship